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Yale Engineering Co, Sydney, N.S.W. (CRAC-AJAC)   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Yale Engineering Co. - Australia
  Yale Engineering Co, Sydney, N.S.W. (CRAC-AJAC).   The information below is taken from the catalogue advertising the auction of the Myron Kasok airgun collection, sold by the Rock Island Auction Company December 13-15, 2003. Pic is copyright Rock Island Auction Co.  
Ye Wha BBB shotgun   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Ye Wha (Tong Il) - Korea
  Ye Wha BBB shotgun.  
Ye Wha BBB Shotgun with bulk fill   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Ye Wha (Tong Il) - Korea
  Ye Wha BBB Shotgun with bulk fill.  
Ye Wha (Tong Il) Model-MSK ST100 (FWB 300S clone)   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Ye Wha (Tong Il) - Korea
  Ye Wha (Tong Il) Model-MSK ST100 (FWB 300S clone).   With thanks to James for these pics:
Walther LG-55   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-55  
Walther Airgun Collection   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther Airgun Collection.   Here is a collection of Walther spring match rifles. Please note the LG54 was added to the pic later so the first pic is just for 'illustrative' purposes.
Walther LG-54MG (ball repeater)   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-54MG (ball repeater).   This is an exceptionally rare 4.4mm lead ball repeater, otherwise very similar to the LG51Z. It will also fire 4.5mm pellets single shot, providing a blank cover converter is used in place of the small, round bayonet-fitting magazine that holds the balls . The first rifle shown here, in fine condition, lacks the magazine but is complete with the single shot converter. The second rifle is complete with the magazine, which has a thick glass window for viewing the number of balls remaining. (With thanks to a collector friend for allowing me to photograph this rifle). Here is the rifle advertised in the 1954 brochure of the German distributor, Akah:     The rifle complete with magazine. With thanks to a collector friend for letting me take these pics:  
Walther LG-54MG (ball repeater) Patent   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-54MG (ball repeater) Patent.           And this patent from 1953 shows Walther's earlier thinking:
Walther LG-51ZD   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-51ZD.  
Walther LG-51M   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-51M.   The match-stocked version of the LG51. With thanks to Jochen for these pics.
Walther LG-51ZD-M-DST   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-51ZD-M-DST.   With thanks to Mark D for these pics. It has an unusual one-piece trigger unit - quite possibly the forerunner of the unit used subsequently by Walther on a number of models - which, as Frank K observes: "Looks like a combination of a LG51/52/53 sear housing and a LG55/LGV double trigger unit to me. Normally these units should be separate and not (like this one) a single unit". Frank's two pics are at the end.
Walther LG-52M   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-52M.  
Walther LG-52M-DST   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-52M-DST.   With thanks to Gaines for these pics of this rare LG52 with double set trigger.
Walther LG-53M DST   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-53M DST.  
Walther LGV   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
    Walther LGV
Walther LGV-DST   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGV-DST.         With thanks to Mark for these pics, who says: "A rare one this,more so than a LG55 DST as these rifles were banned from competition use,just as Walther made the DST trigger unit available for the LGV. Stamped into the breech just above the serial number and next to the 'F' in a pentagon are a couple of what looks like shields one of which has '84' in it. Then there is '.705.' next to that. The breech unit is not drilled for fitting open sights. The standard rear diopter is fitted, although the front unit is fitted with a post foresight... Standard match stock with really nice butt pad and a wood plug just behind the end cap that was fitted to strengthen the pistol grip." Note that the breech block is not drilled for and open rear sight.
Walther LGV-S Junior   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGV-S Junior.  
Walther LGV-Spezial   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGV-Spezial.   The first series of pics are of a 'UIT' stocked version of the LGV which was transitional and spanned earlier and later models. This is a Spezial. Pics courtesy of Mike D.           The second series are of a later LGV stock with sloped forend.   This rare boxed LGV sold on eGun, the German auction website, in March 2013:
Walther LGV-T   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGV-T.  
Walther LGV Olympia   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGV Olympia.   With thanks for these pics to Mike D. This was the first model of LGV and came between the LG55 and LGV Spezial.
Walther LP-3   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-3. See also this thread for a pic of a cutaway LP3   This was Walther's final single stroke pneumatic match pistol and the second, 'bull barrel', version of the LP3. The walnut grip has been slightly modified.
Walther LP-3 early ribbed barrel   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-3 early ribbed barrel. Courtesy of Leonardj. 
Walther LP-3 Match (boxed)   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-3 Match (boxed). Courtesy of Leonardj. 
Walther LP-53   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-53   See also this thread for a pic of a cutaway LP53
Walther LP-53 very early model   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-53 very early model   Pictures courtesy of David Preston.The earliest LP53 currently known, SN 001274This gun also displays the earliest known occurrence of an export marking - "MADE IN GERMANY".The wood grips were custom made to replace the broken original plastic grips.
Walther LP-53 Very Early Boxed Model   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-53 Very Early Boxed Model. Courtesy of Leonardj.  A very early specimen of a Walther LP53 air pistol, bearing serial number 001345, in exceptionally well preserved condition.It is in its original box, with all the sight inserts, the cocking knob, the factory test target, and the owners pamphlet (printed in German). Sadly, the original cleaning rod was missing, and the original early grips were broken. The damaged grips were replaced with a set of later grip panels that I had as spares to make the gun look more presentable. The original grips have been retained due to unique features they possess, not seen on later style grips. This is the earliest known variant of the LP53 box. This early Walther box is very different dimensionally from anything that I have seen to date. The box measures 349 mm wide by 180 mm deep by only 47 mm high. The accessory shelf for the sight inserts inside the box measures 38 mm wide by 115 mm deep by 34 mm high. Contrast these dimensions to the box most commonly seen for these pistols, at 345 mm wide by 170 mm deep by 58 mm high, with the accessory shelf measuring 52 mm wide by 117 mm deep by 46 mm high.
Walther LP-53 (barrel weight, cased, grey trim)   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-53 (barrel weight, cased, grey trim).  
Walther LP-53 Cased (grey trim, brown grips)   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-53 Cased (grey trim, brown grips).  
Walther LP-53 - A brief overview of the variants   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-53 - A brief overview of the variants. Courtesy of Leonardj.  I have been researching the Walther LP53 air pistol for a great many years, and have been attempting to sort out the known variants that have occurred over the course of production of this unique air pistol. I have divided the known variants into five groups, and will describe the different features used to define each of these variant groups. Variant #1This particular group has only come to light within the past 18 or so months, because prior to any pictures of the very early serial numbered guns turning up. nothing was really known of the difference between these very early guns, and those that fall into the Variant #2 group. First variant guns have a number of differences over the later guns, but the most obvious is the markings on the side of the receiver. The three earliest guns known have machined markings, whereas, by S/N 002xxx, these markings are stamped. Variant #2The second variant guns appear similar to the first variant guns, but a number of engineering changes have taken place. The smooth receiver, and high gloss finish on both the alloy parts and the blued steel parts remain. The Walther markings are now stamped into the side of the receiver. The box dimensions have been altered to the size most commonly seen for the LP53. Variant #2, Sub Variant 1This is an interesting sub variant, of which to date, only four examples are known. The subtle difference in these guns to the second variant seen above, is that the top of the receiver, as well as the curved rear portion of the receiver has a crackle black finish applied from the factory, as seen in the inset below. Speculation is that this was done to cover up an imperfection in the casting, much like Webley & Scott did by engraving, to cover imperfections in the frames of their guns. Variant #3The third variant guns maintain essentially all the same features as the second variant guns with the only difference being that the entire receiver sports a crackle black finish, with the exception of a small oval area, into which the markings are stamped. Within the third variant range, at around S/N 024xxx, the adjustable trigger feature is dropped. Variant #4The fourth variant guns retain the crinkle finish receivers, but now the barrel is no longer a shiny, deep blue finish - it is a satin grey/black finish, almost appearing as though Parkerized. The steel parts have also had a similar satin finish applied - no longer that deep, shiny blued finish seen on the earlier variants. Variant #5The fifth variant guns displayed a complete make-over of the receiver, with the most notable feature being the elimination of the curved detail at the rear of the receiver, with a straight angled treatment. The barrel and all the metal parts retain the satin finish as seen on the fourth variant guns. What is interesting to note here is that while Walther states that there were 125.000 LP53 pistols produced, there have been several LP53 specimens surface bearing serial numbers into the 127xxx and 128xxx ranges. Another interesting note with regard to the fifth variant guns is that there appeared to be an engineering change to the sear bar and the piston sear engagement notch, that  took place at around S/N 127xxx. My research on the Walther LP53 is an ongoing project, and my information files are growing daily. My LP53 serial number database, which I began several years ago on the AVA forum, now contains several hundred listings, which have been very helpful in trying to determine when some engineering changes took place. Many interesting revelations have also come from the many LP53 pistols that I have had come to me for repair, such as the sear bar and piston design change noted in the fifth variant description.
Walther LP-53 Video   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-53 Video.   With thanks to Steve for this film: https://youtu.be/1fnLN2Je1Og
Walther LP-2   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-2
Walther LP-2 Boxed   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-2 Boxed.   With thanks to Mark for these pics.  
Walther LP-2 Cased   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-2 Cased   With thanks to Mark for these pics.  
Walther LP-52   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-52.   This pistol turned up on a German auction site at the end of 2013 and caused quite a stir because its existence has been disputed in recent years. Various book authors, including the airgun historian John Walter, have referred to it as having been the model which briefly preceded the LP53. The Walther factory has no records of an LP52 and is sceptical this example is genuine. Countering that view, a number of airgun historians, collectors and authors have said that on balance they think it to be authentic. The pistol is in an early pattern LP53 case. More discussion of this pistol here: https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery.com/n54_archive/vag_talk/Gallery%20Talk_%20walther%20lp52.pdf and here: http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread.php?691417 and here: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/americanvintageairguns/walther-lp52-airpistol-for-sale-lp52-t7256.html  
Walther LP-52 Patent   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-52 Patent.   Luftpistole mit Luftzylinder und Luftkolben im Griffstueck Page bookmark DE940692 (C) - Luftpistole mit Luftzylinder und Luftkolben im GriffstueckInventor(s): Applicant(s): FRITZ WALTHER +Classification: - international: F41A17/50; F41B11/648- cooperative: F41A17/50; F41B11/648Application number: DE1952W008410 19520423 Priority number(s): DE1952W008410 19520423Abstract not available for DE940692 (C)
Walther LP-52 - Correspondence with Carl Walther GmbH   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-52 - Correspondence with Carl Walther GmbH.   Garvin21/01/2014[Flag this message]To: xxxx, xxxx Thank you for your reply and thank you for again confirming that the LP52 is unknown to you. No, I don't want to be told that I have something special if I do not. Quite the opposite! I suppose I was hoping that you might investigate further, perhaps to include a discussion with a retired Walther employee who worked on the factory floor in the early 1950s, if you could find one, although I know they would be very old if still alive today! An earlier generation of Walther employees (including a Peter Hoffmann?) told a famous British airgun historian, John Walter, that a batch of 800 pre-LP53 models was made, without serial numbers, which may or may not have been designated LP52. He said the LP53 markings only began after the pistol became commercially successful. This 'fact' has become part of history, repeated by many writers since, so could be worth investigating, even 60 years after the event. Anyway, I sense that your patience for this matter is wearing thin, so perhaps it will just remain a mystery. Unless Walther has detailed factory records dating from January 1952 to, say, July 1953, which detail the air pistol development and production of that period (the patent application was in April 1952), perhaps were are all reduced to speculation for ever. With thanks and best regards Garvin ----------------------------------------------------------------- From: xxxxSubject: Re-2: Walther LP52To: xxxxDate: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:03:54 +0000 You are right that there was an air rifle model LG52 and we are aware about this model but nobody in our company has ever seen or heard about an air pistol model LP52. What do you expect from us? To tell you stories only to give you the feeling to have something special. In our company there is no trace of such a pistol. The pistol looks like a LP53 except of the "2" instead of the "3" and the "polished" and bright surface. Due to this surface we assumed that the pistol was refinished. Maybe the "2" was "engraved" by mistake in our company but there are no records proofing this. All we can tell you is that this model LP52 is absolutely unknown to us. SorryGood luck for your investigationsBest regardsCarl Walther GmbHGermany ----------------------------------------------------------------- Original Message processed by david® RE: Walther LP52 (21-Jan-2014 12:44) From: Garvin To: xxxx@carl-walther.de Dear Herr xxxx I contacted you independently of Mr xxxx because I do not know him and because he publicly came out strongly in favour of this pistol being a fake before contacting your company. The email address for xxxx was given to me by a Canadian airgun collector. I have been handling and collecting airguns for more than 25 years and this one does not look to me as if the frame has been refinished, or the left side ground down to remove the previous markings. If I was to fake an LP52, I can imagine easier ways of producing it! I seriously doubt the suggestion that it was refinished for reasons of rust, because there is no evidence of rust affecting the pistol. There are usually small signs apparent when this has been the case. The serial number is very low and the frame casting is one of the very earliest made, given that it has similar features to the one we know with the serial number 1345. The author of the largest book on spring air pistols ever written, Professor John Griffiths, who wrote the Encyclopedia of Spring Air Pistols, thinks it possible that this pistol is genuine. I am sorry that you do not wish to take this pistol more seriously, because you may be missing the chance to uncover something extraordinary about your great company's early production! Maybe it is a fake, I don't know. The fact that it may have an engraved banner - a conclusion you reached on the basis of low resolution images - does not necessarily mean it is an obvious fake and it suggests people less than open-minded who would leap to that conclusion. I am reminded that even in Manfred Kirsten's wonderful book on Walther guns, there is no mention of the LG52 air rifle, although the book was clearly produced with the cooperation of Walther. Does this mean the LG52 did not exist? No, it certainly did exist. I have owned two of these rifles myself and we, the airgun collectors, have now documented this rifle extensively. Anyway, thank you kindly for your fast response. MfG Garvin ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mr. Garvin,as already told xxxx xxxx we have no idea about an air pistol model LP52 and there are also no records about such an air pistol. Your pistol look like a LP53 except for the surface as the LP53 had an other surface and was not so bright. The serial number is in the middle of the normal LP53 serial number range and so we assume that somebody has redone the finish as maybe there was rust on the pistol.Best regardsCarl Walther GmbHGermany PSwhat was the reason to send a message to Mr. xxxx? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Original Message processed by david® Walther LP52 (20-Jan-2014 19:11) From: Garvin To: xxxx@carl-walther.de Hallo Herr xxxx I have a pistol which may possibly be an LP52 and I would be grateful if you could examine some photographs of it for me please. I understand that another person from England, xxxx xxxx, has been in contact with Walther. I attach high resultion images of the stamping. It seems clear to me that the banner has been engraved, but the number '2' does not appear to be stamped on top of another number. I know that Walther has said for some years that an LP52 was not made, but why would this pistol be faked do you think? Why would someone take so much trouble and where are the original markings? MfG Garvin London
Walther LP-2 Manual   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-2 Manual.  
Walther LGV Owners Manual   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGV Owner's Manual.   With thanks to Nick for these scans.
Walther LGR   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGR.   With thanks to Nick for the following information: Walther LGR overview: Introduced in 1974 LGR = Luftgewehr Rückstossfreie =Air rifle Recoilless Models available: LGR - The standard model, Beech wood stock, pistol grip and extreme fore end are stippled. LGR Match - Walnut stock. Compared to the standard model, extensive stippling on the fore end extending from the trigger guard to the cocking lever handle, higher sight line (for head up shooting style) supplied with front and rear sight riser blocks. Slimmer and more upright pistol grip , no thumb groove on pistol grip. LGR Laufende Scheibe (Often referred to as the RT or Running Target, Walther use the terminology Moving Target) – Distinctive thumbhole stock, adjustable height cheekpiece, wooden butt plate, no open sights and a single stage trigger. LGR Match Universal – Introduced May 1980(1), generally as Match model but featuring a detachable cheek piece to vary the sightline height. Originally 3 cheekpieces were supplied, broadly replicating the Standard/Match/Moving Target sightlines, by the end of 1980 only two were supplied (2). 1983 saw a new adjustable riser system for the cheek piece, offering more adjustment (see manual p.12 &13 for details). LGR Match Junior – Announced May 1980 (1), available early 1981. Reduced stock dimensions for the junior shooter, butt and fore end shortened, pistol grip to trigger distance also reduced. Supplied with the lighter 150g muzzle weight. Walther LGR
Walther LGR-RT (First variant)   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGR-RT (First variant) Courtesy of Leonardj.
Walther LGR Universal   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGR Universal.   With thanks to Mike H for the first two pics.     This version has a later model diopter sight.
Walther LGR Match   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGR Match.   With thanks to Mike H for the first two pics.        
Walther LGR-RT (second variant)   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGR-RT (second variant).   With thanks to Mike H for these pics.
Walther LGR UIT stock   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGR UIT stock.   With thanks to Mike H for these pics.
Walther LGR competition success information 1979/1980   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGR competition success information 1979/1980.   With thanks to Nick for these scans.
Walther LGR manual   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGR manual.   With thanks to Nick for these scans.
Walther LG-90   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-90.   Walthers first match SSP to have the cocking arm pivot at the front of the action and a self opening loading port. With thanks to Mark D for these pics.
Walther LGM-2 Junior   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LGM-2 Junior.   With thanks to Mark D for these pics.
Walther LP-53 brochure   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther Air Pistols
  Walther LP-53 brochure. Courtesy of Leonardj. 
Walther LG-55T DST   Relevance 1 year ago Garvin2 Walther
  Walther LG-55T DST.    The Walther LG55 was a fully-fledged match rifle and was made in large numbers from the mid-1950s until it was replaced by the LGV in the 1960s. This particular example has double set (hair) triggers and a Tyrolean stock.
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