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tjm2511
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Hello, All - I have recently acquired three Hammerli Single Air Pistols which I feel would be even more super if they were to be sporting wood grips rather than the synthetic grips they now have.  Any assistance or finger pointing to a source would be massively appreciated.  Thank you!

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Topic starter Posted : 18th November 2022 16:24
marflow
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Welcome to Udo Gerdemann (druckluftwaffenonline.de)

item 735  go into ZUBEHOR

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Posted : 23rd November 2022 03:58
tjm2511
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@marflow Thank you for directing me to the site.  Items 735 and 749 are precisely what I am looking for.

 

I sent an email to gerdemann@freenet.de stating that I wish to purchase.  My German is pretty feeble but hopefully I will receive a reply.

 

Kindly,

 

Tom

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Topic starter Posted : 23rd November 2022 05:56
Garvin
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I went to Udo's site but discounted it because the RH grips he has are plastic and the only grips he has in wood are LH (and incredibly expensive!). Or am I wrong? (I hope so) 🙂 

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Posted : 23rd November 2022 14:44
tjm2511
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@garvin You are correct in that they are all plastic except for item 2644 and that they are incredibly expensive.  Udo has offered me a price to ship all sets with the thought that there may interest for the plastic sets here in the States but I am not so sure that it would be worth it for me.  One the other hand the LH set is very nice and I would be silly to let those slip by.  Every shooter should have ambidextrous skills, right? 🤣

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Topic starter Posted : 23rd November 2022 15:03
Garvin
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Not sure, Tom. It's very hard to shoot to match accuracy (or anything approaching it) with the 'wrong' hand in my experience. The frustrating thing about being a collector is that you buy something so as not to let it slip through your fingers and a more suitable example appears for half the price soon after!

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Posted : 23rd November 2022 16:30
tjm2511
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Yes, Garvin...I may be setting myself up for some serious frustration but then it is always fun to explore new frontiers.  Also, if I happen to encounter any left-handed enthusiasts then I will have a proper option for them.  

The Weihrauch HW70 I picked up recently has been a hoot to shoot while I get these Hammerlis sorted out.  

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Topic starter Posted : 23rd November 2022 16:41
tjm2511
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@marflow I believe you know the size and source for valve o-rings.  Could you please share?  I have a leak.  Thank you.

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Topic starter Posted : 24th November 2022 04:41
marflow
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the guy that owns that site i ran across on Egun and you are right  he is a bit of a thief with his prices but he has stuff no one else does 

i have not done business with him just know he is out there 

on the sizes of o-rings i have no idea oh there has been much talk on different forums but as the forums closed the information also died and i checked 

i have a Master somewhere in my collection but they are all going to be paper weights in time oh they can be fixed but they are complicated to take apart no less R&D your seal testing 

and i still believe 735 are wood 

Hammerli Single Pistol. Info. - Grant the Kiwis AirgunForum (tapatalk.com)

mine was rebuilt by the man that worked in the repair center for Hammerli in the states and he had all the parts to fix them in Houston, Texas but two things happen he was but a very old man mid 80's at the time and the city was flooded by the Hurricane as was his garage where the parts were stored and after the flood all of the parts were throw away so that part of the Hammerli's  history ended and now we as owners have to wonder at best, how to repair a complicated pistol 

is the repair complicated i do not know but the disassembly and tools needed are and the right pieces to make seals for the pistols has been lost to time 

i do believe they were some of the finest CO2 pistols ever made and i also believe that people that buy them are wasting their money on a future paper weigh, myself included and mine the last time i shot it worked fine 

i believe what i have for mine is here on the forum some pictures and anyway wanted a cheap one to play with but that was never the case 

whatever you use it has to be urethane nothing else oh i guess Delrin would work but will it seal and to make that small or seal and or seat could be next to impossible 

so here you have some opinion some history and a bleak outlook of a wonderful old pistol 

 

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Posted : 24th November 2022 07:50
tjm2511
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@marflow I am very grateful for you taking the time to lay this all out for me.  Thank you!  

 

I knew before I headed into this direction that there would be some bumps in the road but I find it intriguing to attempt a solution where there does not seem to be one available.

 

Last night a Single that I knew held no air became my first patient.  Following all the good disassembly references provided in the various forums, I had the thing apart rather quickly.  The innards needed a good cleaning which I did thoroughly although I did not use any solvents.  I reassembled it and used the tail piece off another Single to check if it was the tailpiece.  The pistol now works flawlessly and today I will replace its original tailpiece and see what's what.

 

The Master I have is in prime condition with match grips so after all is said and done at least I will have that one to enjoy.  I read up on the history of Rudy and The Hurricane and I would have loved to hear that man's perspective on these little beauties.  I am sure he had some marvelous hacks and work-arounds!

 

Udo and his druckluftwaffen site is splendid in its abundance and his prices make me squeamish but he may be the last supplier before we venture into the wild frontier of paperweights.

 

By the way, 735 is plastic.  I have a set on a Single and they do look like wood but are an interesting "coffee with milk" color and not the dark brown we see so commonly.  Someone somewhere is hiding the good stuff!

 

Thank you especially for the Kiwi forum info!  That in itself is more than I could have hoped for.

 

At the end of the day it is a bleak outlook for all of us and our things but let's have a banging good time in the meanwhile!

 

Kindly,

 

Tom

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Topic starter Posted : 24th November 2022 15:26
marflow
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that is nice to hear that you have had success, but you have a skill level that many do not have and seeing that there is no real place to send them mant of the old pistols will not be repaired 

and if you say those grips are plastic i believe you but even so the grips, he has might be the only ones around is see more and more Hammerli's for sale at fair prices but no takers 

there needs to be a fix for these that is documented with all the info needed to repair these 

So Tom good luck with your Hammerli pistols they are fine pieces of machinery 

mike in the states  

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Posted : 24th November 2022 20:15
tjm2511
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Thanks for your words.  My good fortune with these fixes is a result of following closely those that came before me and a rabbit's foot in my back pocket.

As for the wood/plastic grips: if a person can yell at another person with 5 exclamation marks then that is precisely what Udo did to me when I asked him to confirm the material of each set.  He is a real cupcake though since he has offered to track down some Krico .22lr magazines for me (hint, hint).  Not entirely certain but the words "arms" and "leg" came up when I asked about the cost.  

As you mentioned, with so many of these sweet Hammerlis heading toward oblivion, there are not a lot of takers out there for any upgrades or even parts let alone the pistols themselves.  Sigh.  FWBs and Walthers seem to rule the day anyway...

If you ever choose to sell your Master, you know where to find me.

Happy plinking!

 

Tom

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Topic starter Posted : 24th November 2022 21:16