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23rd December 2017 12:42  

GEM Air Rifles 

For lots of Gem pics from the old forum, visit the archived threads here.


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23rd December 2017 12:43  

GEM repeater. 

Please see this archive thread

 


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23rd December 2017 16:31  

Gems in the David Swan Collection sale 2015 
With thanks to Rod Meek of Anderson & Garland Auctioneers (www.andersonandgarland.com) for permission to post these pics of guns auctioned in 2015.

1. Lot No: 976
Auction Date: 16-09-2015

A Gem air gun with two stage octagonal 18 3/4in. barrel stamped with LZ and crossed rifles emblem, 4.5mm, serial no. 71890 with top latch opening with under lever action nickel plated cylinder, fruit wood stock with steel butt plate, 35in. long overall.
Unsold

 

 

2. Lot No: 991
Auction Date: 16-09-2015

A Gem type air gun, with two stage 17 3/4in.round and octagonal 6.5 cal. 14in. barrel, top lever latch and under lever action below the cylinder both nickel plated, complete with lightwood stock and nickel plated butt plate, serial no. 102511, 34 1/2in. long overall; together with a Gem type air gun, by Jean Marck, the octagonal 5.5cal. 19 3/4in. barrel with T-shaped lever latch above the nickel plated cylinder and under lever action, with walnut stock and steel butt plate, bearing the circled M trademark, serial no. 6290, 37in. long overall.
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3. Three combination-type Gems - first two pics of a gun by FLZ.


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30th December 2017 06:57  

Gems in famous collection, sold 2003.

 

Gem-type guns pictured in the auction catalogue of the Myron Kasok collection, sold by the Rock Island Auction Co, December 13th-15th 2003.


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30th December 2017 07:59  

Various Gems.

Originally posted by Dave (DCL_dave)


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30th December 2017 08:08  

Three FLZ Composite type Gems 

Pics of my 3 Friedrich Langenhan Composite type Gems...

Originally posted by Dave (DCL_dave)


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30th December 2017 08:10  

Four Heavy Gems.

Pics of 4 heavy Gems (top one is a JM No3, the other 3 are all Eisenwerke Heavy models (possibly No 17's) all in .25...

Thanks to Jon for the pics of his wonderful Heavy Gem collection

Originally posted by Dave (DCL_dave)


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30th December 2017 08:50  

More Gem pics.

Some more pics of my Gems...

From the top down... JM No2 in .177 smoothbore(S/No 1634...or 47?), JM No2 gallery model in .177 smoothbore(S/No 6450...or 45?), JM No3 in .25 smoothbore(S/No 32?), JM No3 in .25 smoothbore with target sights(S/No 28?), Theodore Bergmann flip-catch T-bar in .177 smoothbore (serial number something or other

Originally posted by Dave (DCL_dave)

 

Have now removed the T-bar stamped with "DSE 3,12,91" from my anomalous JM No3...sure enough the number "32" is clearly stamped underneath...so my serial number/patent date stamp theory is all wrong!...so it's back to the drawing board for me...PAH!

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30th December 2017 08:52  

List of Gems 

Haven't had a chance to do any more pics yet so I've compiled a list of the Gems in the pic... 

1) Unknown model, possibly by Langenhan (FLZ) 
2) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 14 
3) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 14 
4) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 17 
5) Jean Marck No 3 with target sights (long hooked spur version ) 
6) Jean Marck No 3 (long hooked spur version ) 
7) Jean Marck No 3 (short hooked spur version ) 
8) Jean Marck No 3 (short hooked spur version ) 
9) Jean Marck No 2 Gallery model with target sights (long hooked spur version ) 
10) Jean Marck No 2 with target sights (long hooked spur version ) 
11) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No20 
12) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No20 
13) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No13 
14) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No13 
15) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No15 
16) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No16 
17) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No14 
18) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar) 
19) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar) 
20) FLZ/Diana No 6 
21) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar) 
22) FLZ/Diana No3L (dollshead) 
23) FLZ/Diana No3L (dollshead) 
24) FLZ Composite type 
25) FLZ Composite type 
26) FLZ Composite type 

Originally posted by Dave (DCL_dave)


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30th December 2017 09:13  

Restored LZ type Gem.

Been sent some pics of an Langenham type Gem that I sold to a chap for restoration...the results are simply amazing!

All credit to Gez for a wonderful restoration job.

Originally posted by Dave (DCL_dave)


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30th December 2017 09:19  

Photos of a lovely Marck Gem.

 

With thanks to John for permission to use his pics. It's a gorgeous looking Gem, made all the more attractive by the sumptuous blue backcloth!

To save Dave the trouble of repeating himself, this is what he said about this gun on the BBS:

<b>"What a cracker!, thanks for posting the pics

As already said, it is a Marck Gem, but it's difficult to tell which model it is without knowing the weight and length?, even then it may be slightly different from other similar models...but from the shape of the breechblock it looks like a standard model No1 or No2, these were available in 4.5, 5.5, 6.5 and even 8mm calibre!

Marck Gems have been seen with patent marks from 1888 (Hiller - page 132), yours looks like it has the "DSE 3.12.91" patent stamp on the T-bar?, so it'll be after that date...and the factory was still open into the 1930's so it is difficult to date it accurately. The number 24 indicates early but then these are nearly always seen with a low-ish numbers so I'm unsure if they are actually serial numbers (all parts will be stamped with this number) I have two No2 models that can be fairly accurately dated to the 1920's, they carry the numbers 45 and 47 in the usual places, but they also have the numbers 6450 and 1634 respectively, stamped on one of the flats of the octagonal barrel, so the numbers are ambiguous..."</b>

 


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30th December 2017 09:33  

Jean Marck Model x2.

Didn't have a Jean Marck in my collection untill yesterday ,now I have got 2 of them ....
Both are 92,5 cm long and weigh 1,7 kg ,calibers are 4,5mm and 6,5mm.
Both barrels are round and tapered and both are smoothbore too.
The oldest one (I presume) has got the extra 3 screws to hold on to the stock the other one hasn't.
The oldest one has minute traces of nickel plating on the cylinder tube and the other one is blued overall and has got most of it left. /images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">
Nice thing is, the "newest" model has got the "EXPORT" stamp as a extra bonus.

Lets start with both of them together:

Oldest one:

A nice detail is the counter sunk "crowning" of the barrel"

And this is the "EXPORT" model with the "T-Bar"latch broken:

Funny difference in orientation of the logo.

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Frank

 

Originally posted by Frakor


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30th December 2017 09:44  

3 Jean Marck Gems.

Just a quick group photo...

top- Jean Marck No1 (.177)
middle- Jean Marck No2 (.177)
bottom- Jean Marck No3 (.25)

Originally posted by Dave (DCL_dave)


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30th December 2017 09:47  

Arbenz Gem.

 

I spotted this rare Gem for sale on Gunstar, complete with acid etching(?) to the cylinder in the name of A Arbenz of Birmingham, a retailer who imported these guns. Apart from this wording it looks like an unremarkable "doll's head" Gem.

This is what Walter's Dictionary of Guns and Gunmakers says about Arbenz:

<i>Arbenz Adolph(e) Arbenz and his successors, often listed as gunmakers, were
merchants and wholesalers. However, as Arbenz was the communicant
of British Patent 4413/86 of 1886, granted to Flurscheim & Bergmann
(»Eisenwerke Gaggenau), it is clear that Arbenz’s business had attained some
importance. The patent notes the trading address in 1887 as 107 & 108 Great
Charles Street, Birmingham, but a move had been made by 1914 to 33 Ludgate
Hill, Birmingham. Arbenz survived into the post-1945 period, wholesaling
ironmongery, but ceased trading c. 1959. The links with airguns had long since
been severed.</i>


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30th December 2017 10:04  

Langenham Gem.

I acquired this little Gem at the recent Hickory NC airgun show, and it appears very similar to an EG Model 21, best I can tell from the dimensions and weight listed in the catalog post... Is this a common marking on the barrel? Other pictures follow.... After a little work, I have it shooting 405 fps with 7.45 grain match pellets. The o-ring works great, but I plan on cutting a new leather seal to keep it original...
Thanks in advance for any comments/replies!

Originally posted by jford2


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30th December 2017 10:11  

Gems in the Cody Firearms Museum.

 

With thanks to Sean Campbell, imaging manager of the Buffalo Bill Centre of the West in Cody, Wyoming, for permission to post these pics of guns held in the Cody Firearms Museum.


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30th December 2017 10:26  

Jean Marck No.4 Gallery gun in 9mm.

Here is a better shot of the breech.

Upon studying the catalogues again...this may infact be a No.1 in 8mm because the cal is somewhere
between 8 and 9mm (about 8.6 on my cheap digital caliper) it weighs 1.9 kilos and is 89.5cm long...

Originally posted by Dave (DCL_dave)


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30th December 2017 10:46  

Gems in the David Swan Collection sale 2015 Pt 2.

 

With thanks to Rod Meek of Anderson & Garland Auctioneers ( http://www.andersonandgarland.com) for permission to post these pics of guns auctioned in 2015.

 

A Gem ''Composite'' 4.5mm air gun, serial no. 1281 with two stage octagonal 18 3/4in. barrel and top latch opening, under lever action and fruit wood stock, 35 1/4in. long overall.

 

A Gem, 4.5mm air gun, the two stage 17 3/4in. octagonal barrel stamped with the harpoon trade mark of Eisenwerke, top lever catch and under lever action, the cylinder plated, fruit wood stock and steel butt plate, 34 1/2in. long overall.

 

A Gem, 4.5mm air gun, with two stage 161/2in. octagonal barrel inscribed patent and bearing the harpoon trade mark of Eisenwerke, with T-bar lever opening latch with under lever mechanism all bearing the remains of silver paint, fruit wood stock and steel butt plate 33in. long overall.

 

A Gem, patent 4.5mm air gun, the two stage 17 3/4in. octagonal barrel stamped with crossed pistols trade mark of Eisenwerke and serial no. 8860, the top latch with rear sight button press, under lever action and plain steel cylinder, with fruit wood stock and steel butt plate, 34 1/2in. long overall.

 

A Gem 4.5mm air gun, with two stage 17 3/4in. octagonal barrel and lever top latch, the cylinder plated with inscription 'The Original Gem Quality, manufactured in Germany especially for the introducer Arbenz Birmingham', all within an ornate cartouche, under lever mechanism with fruit wood stock and steel butt plate, 34in. long overall.

 

A Jewel Gem 4.5mm air gun, the 17 3/4in. steel barrel with flat engine turned top, lever opening latch, serial no. 91990, plain steel cylinder and fruit wood stock with steel butt plate, 34in. long overall.

 

 

A Gem, 4.5mm air gun, the breech stamped DRGM, the 18 7/8in. barrel bearing the crossed rifles LZ motif and also inscribed manufactured in Germany, serial no. 47345 with ''long spoon latch'', under lever action and fruit wood stock with steel butt plate, 35in. long overall.

 

 

A Gem type 4.5mm air gun, with 18 3/4in. octagonal barrel stamped Pape Newcastle, thumb press T-bar latch, under lever action and fruit wood stock, serial no. 34179, 34 3/4in. overall length; and Gem type air gun, with octagonal barrel and thumb press T-bar latch, with fruit wood stock and steel butt plate, 35in. long; together with a Gem type air gun, octagonal barrel, T-bar and side lever latch with a cylinder with engraved depose, under lever action and fruit wood stock fitted a steel butt plate, 36 1/2in. long overall. (3)

See also this thread:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/661795/thread/1446409902/last-1447188918

 

 

 

A Gem type gun, with 15 5/8in. octagonal barrel, T-bar lever latch and under lever action, serial no. 11212, split cast iron cylinder housing and fruit wood stock, fitted a steel butt plate, 33 1/2in. overall; together with a Gem type 4.5mm air gun, with 13in. octagonal barrel, the T-bar latch with thumb piece and sight notch, under lever action and split cylinder casing with partial nickel plating now worn, serial no. 30682, 39 1/2in. long overall.

 

 

 

A Gem type .177 cal. air gun, with 15 3/4in. octagonal barrel, spoon and T-bar latch, serial no. 16077, under lever action with cast split cylinder housing, walnut stock and steel butt cap, circa 1900-1910, 33 1/2in. long overall.

 

 

A Gem type air gun, with round 4.5mm 18 1/8in. barrel, the repaired top lever latch with nickel plated under lever action and cylinder casing, with mahogany stock and steel butt plate, 34 1/2in. long; together with a Gem type 4.5mm air gun, with two stage round and octagonal 18 3/4in. barrel, with top lever latch and under lever action, serial no. 14715, complete with walnut stock and steel butt plate, 35 1/4in. long overall.

 

 

A Diana-Luft-Gewehr Gem type air gun, with octagonal 17 3/4in. 4.5mm. barrel, the top lever latch with groove sight thumb piece, serial no. 44564, under the steel cylinder bearing traces of nickel plating with plain under lever action, walnut stock, the steel butt plate 34in. long overall.

 

 

A Gem type air gun, with Lane's patent ball trigger, 17 3/4in. flat top barrel, 415 cal. heavy chamber and robust top latch, with pitted steel cylinder and under lever combination trigger, the stock with steel butt plate, 34 1/2in. long overall.

 

 

A Gem air gun, with harpoon mark to the two stage octagonal and round 201/4in. barrel, the top latch with groove rear sight thumb piece, serial no. 9, with under lever action, wood stock with steel butt plate, 38 1/2in. long overall.

 

 

A Midland Gun Company, Birmingham, Gem type air gun, with round 4.5cal. 18 3/4in. barrel, serial no. 10, the top latch with groove thumb piece, the chamber and cylinder with traces of original bluing, oak stock and steel butt plate, 35in. long overall; together with a Speedy .177cal. air gun, with 11 1/8in. barrel, T-bar top latch incorporating the rear sight, steel two part cylinder incorporating the trigger guard and grip, with under lever action and lightwood stock, serial no. 3895, 32in. long overall.


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