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BSA Junior and Juvenile Patterns 1909-14

 

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17/12/2017 4:00 pm  

BSA Juvenile 1st batch (1912) serial no. 64542 

The first pic shows the Juvenile alongside a slightly earlier Sporting pattern Improved Model D, to give an idea of the relative sizes.


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17/12/2017 4:01 pm  

BSA Juvenile 2nd batch (1913) serial no. S77117 


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BSA Juvenile 1st batch (1912-13) serial no. 65601 

With thanks to Eddie.

For a gun which is one of the rarest in terms of numbers made...only 1097 were ever made, this great web resource is becoming the place where they seem to be surfacing! This particular gun has not seen a hard life, and with it's factory fitted case, and extra aperture rear sight, may well have been a present from a very well off father, to a
very lucky son! ...

These guns were not much less than the full size models in price, and when you consider that the normal working man of the time, who shot perhaps in a local club or pub, would have to spend a months wages to buy one of these, and if he were a member of a club, then a BSA underlever was expensive enough that often the club would only have say 2 or 3 , and they would be shared by up to a dozen or more shooters who could only dream of being able to afford a new one of their own!....when you consider both the case and the (quite expensive) additional, and unusual at least on this gun, model 21a rear aperture sight, which at the time was 7 shillings new, compared to the 45 shillings the whole gun cost,ie. over 15% to the total!.. this was an expensive outfit when new!

Showing how it was a perfect miniature of the 45" sporting....who knows, perhaps this pair may have been a father

and sons guns long ago...

 

65601 was made between November 1912 - November 1913, and dispatched during the same period, obviously during a period of high demand, as many guns were stored at the factory sometimes for months and even years in some cases.

Interestingly, the 21a sight fitted to this gun is graduated as normal up to 50 yards, and these are normally found on the much bigger and more powerful .22 "sporting" models etc. It serves on this small gun when raised, only to sharpen the sight picture of the standard flip-up 10 and 20 yard sights fitted.I am convinced that it was supplied with the gun, the stock has been professionally modified with an inletted wedge as this size of stock was never intended to mount this sight.The workmanship is faultless, and looks to be contemporary in appearance to the stock.


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BSA Junior (1910) serial no. 30171 

With many thanks to Peter for these pics of his rare Junior model. John Knibbs says just over 1,000 of these small rifles were made, fewer than the 1097 Juvenile Pattern that replaced it (although they were sold concurrently for a time). The reason they are so scarce in the UK is that many were exported, Mr Knibbs says.

Some of the pics show a Juvenile pattern alongside the Junior, which was basically a cut-down version of the Light Pattern whereas the Juvenile was slightly longer, had a slimmer diameter cylinder and a flip up rearsight.


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17/12/2017 4:03 pm  

BSA Junior (1911) serial no. 39069 

With thanks to a collector friend for the pics of this superb Improved Model D Junior. Mr Knibbs says it was made between March and April 1911 and despatched from the factory between March and December of that year. Most were despatched in Summer 1911.

Note the unusual band grip chequering.

 


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BSA Juvenile 2nd batch (1913) serial no. S77360 

This rifle was made between November and December 1913 and despatched from the factory between November '13
and September '14. Nearly all of this batch of 500 were Juveniles (source: John Knibbs).

With thanks to a collector friend.

 


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BSA Junior (1911-12) serial no. 46720 

With thanks for these pics to Arbe:

 

 

 

Updated pics, with thanks to Peter:


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28/04/2019 11:21 pm  

BSA Junior rifles x3 

With thanks to Peter.

 
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BSA Juvenile 1st batch (1912) serial no. 65724 

With thanks to Trevor M for these pics.

Trevor says: "BSA Improved Model D Juvenile pattern . Serial number S65724. Calibre .177. Made November 1912. Sometimes referred to as a Junior Mk2. 

 











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BSA Junior (1910) serial no. 34566 

With thanks to Trevor M for these pics.

Trevor says: "BSA Improved Model D Junior pattern. Serial number 34566. Calibre .177.

 



















 
 

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